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1. սերժիկ + արմէնիկ

   Շատ տպաւորիչ է, մանաւանդ որ սերժիկ սարգսյանը 2 օր առաջ հայտարարեց, որ մինչեւ սատկիլը իշխանութեան վրայ կ'ուզէ մնալ, այսինքն` ողջ հայ ժողովուրդը ոչխարի տեղ դրած է: Իսկ մէկը ոչխարի, իշու կամ ուրիշ հայվանի տեղ կը դնեն եթէ ԻՆՔ ԹՈՅԼ ՏԱՅ ԶԻՆՔ ԱՅԴՊԻՍԻ ՏԵՂ ԴՆԵԼ:

   ս-երժիկ ս-արգսյան ——– ս + ս ———- էս. էս., նորօրեայ Հիթլեր, որ դաս կ'առնէ իր վարպետէն` իրեն նման իշխանութեան կառչած Փութինէն: Այս զոյգը Իլհամ Ալիեւի, Նուրսուլթան Նազարպայեւի, Չինաստանի, արաբական աշխարհի եւ Միջին Ասիոյ հանրապետութեանց նախագահ կոչուածներուն հետ բռնակալներու նոյն ակումբի անդամներ են, սակայն միաժամանակ կը բարբաջեն ժողովրդավարութենէն, ընտրութիւն-խեղկատակութիւններ ալ կը կազմակերպեն պարբերաբար: Թքե'ր եմ նմաններուն վրայ ալ, անոնց այսպիսի ժողովրդավարութեան վրայ ալ…

2. Sheep and Thieves

   Like so many Diaspora Armenians, I sometimes wonder whether these reprehensible people are even Armenian. I doubt that I will ever visit Armenia again–as long as these hoodlums are in power.

   1. “like so many Diaspora Armenians…”

      Dear Vahakn,

      I hope you are from Canada, where there is still a relatively reasonable government.

      But if you are from the United States or Russia, or Syria or Ukraine or the Philippines, Iran, Egypt, UK…. the list goes on and on, be my guest stay with your stupid, corrupt, nepotist president Trump, or respective presidents of listed above other countries (and people who voted for them) and never come to Armenia again. Bye!

      1. Please don’t include Syria

         Please don't include Syria in the list. Assad is very popular and majority of Syrians support him.

         1. Asad is a dictator

            Irena, Please stop misrepresenting facts.
            Asad is a dictator who is directly responsible for destroying Syria and deportation of more than 10 million Syrians. How do you know if majority of people support him?
            Small minorities such Aleppo Armenians, Alawites, and Christians altoghether don't make up 15% of the population. If I add the "swinging" Druze who always play on both sides in every conflict, then a good 75-80% of the people (including the Kurds) want Asad to leave.

            1. Assad of Syria

               Vahram,

               That Assad is a dictator is no news. Syria, like other Arab states, has no experience of democracy, except for some democractic touches in Lebanon. Arab states are variations of dictatorship (military to royal) because most Arab societies are tribal and the citizens believe in strongmen who promise to be the country's salvation. They don't trust themselves to run a state where the rule of law is paramount. There's no point in listing the caravan of charismatic and brutal Arab leaders who promised but didn't/couldn't deliver.

               If, in the unlikely instance, Assad decides to establish democracy, he would be laughed off as a Boy Scout, a silly dreamer. The military would remove him before you can say Gamal Abdul Nasser. Even if the Arabs wanted genuine democracy, the West wouldn't allow it because the West rightly believes if Arabs establish a democratic state that state would be anti-West reflecting the electorate's attitude. Assad has no option but be a dictator. His position was forced upon him following the death of his father and heir-apparent brother.

               Assad favors the minorities because he is a member of a hated minority (Alawites) and he can use all the support he can get. He knows if given the chance, the majority Sunni Syrians would butcher every last Alawite.                         

               Armenians, being a minority, are also protected, if not favored by Assad.

               Ask yourself whether there would be a Syrian democratic government if Assad was turfed or assassinated.

               One plays the cards one is given. Armenians of Syria find themselves in situation which is not of their doing. Do you think it would be wise for the Armenians–a few as they are–to ally with the Sunnis who admire Turkey and Erdogan?

               I can't imagine what will happen to the Armenian community if the Sunnis take power in Syria.

               Assad should also be admired for being the last Arab leader who, despite the heavy price, has remained steadfast in his opposition to the Israeli colonial presence. The last Arab leader who rejected peace with imperial Zionism was killed by the Americans on behalf of the Israelis. Likewise Ghaddafi. Despite the risk, Assad has rejected making peace with the Israelis who have been behind much of Middle Eastern turmoil since 1948. He could easily move to Europe or to Russia and enjoy his millions. But this former optomestrist has proved his mettle. 

               You surely know that the Syrian Civil War was engineered by Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia, a couple of oil sheikhdoms and the US. The Arabs wanted to destroy Assad because he is friendly with Shiite Iran and Hizbollah; Turkey is anti-Assad because Assad wasnt obedient enough. The Americans hate Assad because the Israeli hate him.I hope you don't believe that they plotted against Assad because they cared for the Sunni Syrians and wanted to see a democratic Syria.

               Finally, the Syrian refugees were created by the people who wanted to bring down Assad. They bear responsibility for the Syrian tragedy. And yet the Saudis and their sheikhs who were partly responsible for the Syrian Civil War didn't lift their fingers to help their brother Sunni refugees and let them become exiles–some living in Erdogan's paradise meanwhile Erdogan charges the Europeans billions of dollars for the refugees and threatens to let them flood Europe if the checks don't come in from Berlin, Paris, Londond, etc.

            2. Hayorti, I’ve been hearing

               Hayorti, 

               I've been hearing and reading similar cliché ideas from some Middle Eastern Armenians ever since the civil unrest (I repeat the civil unrest) started in Syria. 

               First idea: Assad is a dictator just like all (or most) other Arab states. So that justifies Assad dynasty's brutal dictatorship and killing and repressing of thousands of people not only of Syrian citizenry but also Lebanese, Palestinians and Jordanians, etc. and antagonizing and plotting against each of Iraq (Saddam), Jordan (Hussein), Lebanon and Palestinians (Arafat) and organising and fuelling terrorism, killings, disappearances by the thousands for decades. Siding with such a regime does not honor us, Armenians and puts us under radar of cautiousness and hatred by other Arabs.

               UAE, Kuwait or KSA are authoritarian too but they do benefit their people and countries too and not only their cronies. Tunisia revolted and established a better, multi-party system (remember it’s all about improving and not making a system like EU and USA overnight). 

               No one said or claimed that Assad would establish democracy (and others would not have laughed at him but envied him and feared of his model like Morsi of Egypt). Assad in 2010 could have started an evolutionary, gradual reform by including other parties and communities to be part of the rule. Taking measures against corruption, organizing new elections, liberalizing laws and economy, freeing prisoners who were abducted, beaten and thrown in jails for their politcal thinking. Instead, his men stubbornly continued shooting at demonstrators, beating them (first demonstrators were middle-class students of Damascus) and persecuting them. Of course when your immune system is weak, then foreign bodies will attack your body. That's what happened. Foreign countries took advantage and all participated in the war. You failed to mention Iran, Hezbollah and Russia who fuelled the war and prolonged it. For this situation, Assad is the only person responsible for not being able to preserve his country's unity and don't look for responsible in Emir of Qatar, Erdogan, or Obama. They were not the president of Syria and they did not take the oath to serve the "Syrian Arab Nation"…. 

               Regarding Armenians… they live in a sea of Sunni Arabs. Any school boy would know that it is of Armenians' interest to be in good terms with Sunnis and stay neutral in such conflicts. I never said to side with Sunnis. Assad is using the community protection excuse to advance his agenda. He is not a guarantee for Armenians' security. In fact because of him Aleppo Armenians suffered greatly. If tomorrow Assad dies Aleppo Armenians are exposed, they have no future in Syria or what is left of Syria. They continue to be short-sighted and back Assad (or maybe now his teenage son).         

               Another point about Israel, Assad did not sign peace treaty with Israel only  because they could not agree on a few terms with Israel. Both countries have met and negotiated several times but other Arabs like Hussein of Jordan and Arafat were faster in agreeing with Israel. That does not make Hafez and Bashar Assad family heroes. Also Assad's deep alliance with Shiite axis (Hezbollah and Iran) was to counter-balance the Sunnis and expressed his deep hatred and cautiousness of Sunni Arab countries (he sided with Iran against Saddam Hussein). But Assad is hated by his own people before speaking about other countries. An unpopular leader should expect sooner or later an uprising. Who is to blame then? Emir of Qatar or Erdogan or the dictator himself who failed to gain the trust and alliance of his own people?

               One last point on refugees, it is a shame that you blame millions of women and children for bringing this tragedy upon themselves. Sometimes, I feel that Diaspora Armenians are not worthy of support from any nation because they don’t care in other peoples’ causes and suffering. Dashnag students in the 80s argued with me for raising slogans about Kurd, Palestinian and Armenian solidarity. They said " let's talk about our genocide first" and since then they’ve been talking to themselves. No one else cares. You should give and take. 

               Syrian refugees are the result of a civil war and also at times are the result of ethnic cleansing that the Syrian regime did in some areas to change the demographics of regions like Homs, Qusseir, Aleppo suburbs, etc. We, Armenians who have witnessed ethnic cleansing on many occasions, especially in the past 100 years, should be sensitive to such issues and be more understanding.

            3. Syrian Civil War

               Your views on Middle East politics are at best unrealistic and at worst uninformed. Probably your location (in corrupt and Sunni Kuwait) has something to do with your attack on Shiite Assad. Maybe you will get three stars from the Kuwaiti sheiks.

               You add nothing to public knoweldge when you say that Syria is a dictatorship and oppostion is not tolerated–just like any Arab country except Lebanon where they often assassinate their oppostion.

               You accuse Armenians of siding with Assad. Armenians appreciate the protection that Assad has provided. However, Armenians have not taken part in politics. What did you expect them to do? Carp about the man who protects them and side with Assad's enemies? Please get real.

               There isn't a scintilla of proof that the Russians and the Iranians are responsbile for the Syrian Civil War. They participated in the Saudi-Turkish-Israeli-US-Emirate plotted war to save their friend Assad.

               Syria didn't sign a peace treaty with Israel because the latter occupies the Golan Heights and adjacent areas. Your description of Gold Heights is "few terms" is unreal.

               Your comment includes many other erroneous ideas, inexactitudes, and examples of your ignorance of the facts. But I don't have the time to spend hours to elaborate about Syria, the Syrian Civil War, the Arab World, and the interference of America, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and the sheiks of the Gulf in Syrian affairs.

               One final point: Syria is the last Arab state which has remained steadfast in its resistance to Western and Israeli forces. If you cared for the truth and the Arab World, you would consider Assad the last hero of the Arabs. Do you prefer the hired-hand kings of Morocco and Jordan, the butchers of Algeria and Libya, the dictator of Egypt, the genocide in Yemen, the corrupt oil states, or Jungle Lebanon? Assad could have taken off, with his family, entourage and wealth, to Europe. However, although unprepared for his heavy responsibilities (which he didn't seek), the optician (?) remained steadfast to make sure his homeland wasn't sliced like a cake by Turkey, Israel, the Saudis, and the Americans.

3. «Հյուսիսափայլ»ը կ’արձագանգէ

   Մոսկուա լոյս տեսնող «Հյուսիսափայլ»ը կ'արձագանգէ Սեւակի ծաղրանկարը տեղադրելով կայքէջի վրայ:

   Moscow-Armenian periodical «Husisapail»
   In Armenian, «Husisapail» means «Northern Lights» or «Aurora borealis».
   Being the oldest periodical in Russia, «Husisapail» was first published in Moscow on March 1858 by a special permission of the Russian Tzar Alexander II.
   After a long interval «Husisapail» was restarted on December 1993.

   

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