People Who Approve the Protocols, Speak up!

2 September 2009, Ontario, Canada

It was expected. Many in the Diaspora do not approve the protocols recently made public. It is not clear whether the majority does not agree, because of lack of statistical data. Based on private e-mails, there are individuals who argue that Armenia has little choice in these negotiations, it is in a tight spot and this is a start to establish some reasonable neighbourly relations with Turkey.

According to Mr. Nalbandian, the Foreign Minister of Armenia, there are "many important personalities from the Diaspora" who approve of the course that the Armenian Government has taken. Keghart.com invites those individuals to show their presence through any means they chose and whatever venues they prefer. After all, this is a momentous period in our history and a public discourse is a must. Probably they form the majority and not the individuals and the traditional Armenian political parties in the Diaspora who have clearly expressed their disapproval. 

Declarations follow:

2 September 2009, Ontario, Canada

It was expected. Many in the Diaspora do not approve the protocols recently made public. It is not clear whether the majority does not agree, because of lack of statistical data. Based on private e-mails, there are individuals who argue that Armenia has little choice in these negotiations, it is in a tight spot and this is a start to establish some reasonable neighbourly relations with Turkey.

According to Mr. Nalbandian, the Foreign Minister of Armenia, there are "many important personalities from the Diaspora" who approve of the course that the Armenian Government has taken. Keghart.com invites those individuals to show their presence through any means they chose and whatever venues they prefer. After all, this is a momentous period in our history and a public discourse is a must. Probably they form the majority and not the individuals and the traditional Armenian political parties in the Diaspora who have clearly expressed their disapproval. 

Declarations follow:


ՌԱՄԿԱՎԱՐ ԱԶԱՏԱԿԱՆ ԿՈՒՍԱԿՑՈՒԹԻՒՆ

ՅԱՅՏԱՐԱՐՈՒԹԻՒՆ

Հայաստանի Հանրապետութեան ու Թուրքիոյ Հանրապետութեան միջեւ յարաբերութիւններու հաստատման պաշտօնական համաձայնագիրը, իր յետագայ զարցագումներու գործընթացով, արդէն իսկ հրապարակուած է եւ իր վրայ կեդրոնացուցած լուսարձակը՝ հայ թէ միջազգային լրատուամիջոցներու:

Ասիկա կը նշանակէ թէ՝ հայ ժողովուրդը կը գտնուի լուրջ ու վտանգաւոր հանգրուանի մը դիմաց, որուն անբաղձալի հետեւանքներէն միշտ ալ զգուշացած էինք եւ զգուշացուցած անոր հեղինակները:

Ի տես այս կայացած իրողութեան, Ռամկավար Ազատական Կուսակցութիւնը կը յայտնէ իր ամբողջական վերապահութիւնը հանդէպ կատարուած այս անխոհեմ քայլին, որուն պատասխանատուութիւնը կ’ինայ
գերազանցապէս Հայաստանի իշխանութիւններուն վրայ:

Այս աոիթով, կը փափաքինք ընդգծել հետեւեալ կէտերը, զանոնք սեփականութիւնը դարձնելով մեր ժողովուրդին.

Ա. Սահմաններու բացումը, բնականոն կապերու հաստատումը կամ դիւանագիտական ներկայացուցչութիւններու իրականացումը, միջ-պետական հարեւան երկիրներու մակարդակով, կրնան իրենց համապատասխան դրսեւորումները գտնել, միայն Թուրքիոյ կ’ողմէ Հայոց Ցեղասպանութեան ճանաչում-ընդունումով, հայ ժողովուրդի արդար իրաւունքներու վերատիրացումով ու հայկական հողերու վերադարձովը իրենց իրաւատիրոջ:

Բ. Վարկածը նախապայմաններու, զորս մինչեւ օրս Թուրքիոյ իշխանութիւնները կը շեշտեն, պէտք է ըլլան բացառուած պահանջքներ, ի՛նչ ենթահող կամ հիմունք ալ ունենան անոնք, չմոռնալով որ Թուրքիա 1992էն ի վեր Հայաստանը կը պահէ պարտադիր շրջափակումի տակ:

Գ. Առնուազն անիրաւական է, որ նման փաստաթուղթ կը ստորագրուի (ու շուտով Ազգային Ժողով կը յղուի առ ի վաւերացում), երբ հայրենի ժողովուրդը ու մանաւանդ Տարագիր հայութիւնը կը դրուին կատարուած իրողութեան մը առջեւ:

Դ. Թրքական ոչ-գաղտնի դիրքորոշուները, ըստ որոնց՝ փոխադարձ յարաբերութիւններու յաջողութեան համար, նախապայման է ղարաբաղեան հարցը լուծել ի նպաստ… Ատրպէյճանին:

Մենք համոզուած ենք, որ Հայաստանի իշխանութիւնները պատմական սխալ մը կը գործեն այս փաստաթուղթի ստորագրութեամբ, զայն գործադրելու յաջորդականութեամբ ու ժամանակացոյցով, ծանրակշիռ եւ աններելի պատասխանատուութեամբ:

Ասկէ մեկնելով՝ Ռամկավար Ազատական Կուսակցութիւնը պիտի շարունակէ իր անդուլ հետապնդումները, խորհրդակցութիւններու, քննարկումներու ու հրապարակումներու շարքով, այս հիմնախնդիրը պահելու բաց ու մնայուն օրակարգ մը, մատնանշելով անոր աղիտաւորութեան պատմական, քաղաքական եւ իրաւական երեսները:

Ի վերջոյ, կոչ կ’ուղղենք մեր ժողովուրդին, աչալրջութեամբ ու զգաստութեամբ հակազդել այս փաստաթուղթի հայավնաս բացորոշ հետեւանքներուն, ի մասնաւորի հայ մտաւորականութեան, քաղաքական գործիչներու ու պատմաբաններու դասին, որ ունի անմիջական եւ ազդու պարտաւորութիւն-յանձնառութիւն:
 

ՌԱՄԿԱՎԱՐ ԱԶԱՏԱԿԱՆ ԿՈՒՍԱԿՑՈՒԹԵԱՆ
ԿԵԴՐՈՆԱԿԱՆ ՎԱՐՉՈՒԹԻՒՆ
Սեպտեմբեր 2, 2009

ARF Western US Statement On Proposed Armenia-Turkey Protocols

The Armenian Revolutionary Federation of the Western United States comes before the Armenian nation to express its profound concerns on the so-called protocols for the normalization of bilateral relations between Armenia and Turkey.

The ARF, as one of the oldest Armenian national organizations outside the Armenian Church, has always advocated the establishment of not only diplomatic but friendly diplomatic relations between the Armenian and Turkish Republics.  However, these relations cannot be based upon a capitulation of Armenian national rights arising from the Genocide committed against the Armenian nation that decimated its population, destroyed its cultural heritage and usurped its ancestral homeland.

First, the so-called “Protocols” provide for a clear surrender of Armenian national rights by recognizing the “inviolability of Turkish territory,” significant parts of which have a cloud over their lawful title. Included within this “territory” are large parts of modern Turkey that had been lawfully awarded to and recognized to be part of the Armenian Republic in 1920 and earlier. Much of that territory has been illegally taken from the Armenian nation through force, coercion and through the use of internationally condemned illegal and wrongful means.

Second, the clause referring to the parties agreeing to “refrain from pursuing any policy incompatible with the spirit of good neighborly relations,” is objectionable for its vagueness and hidden objectives.  This clause will be interpreted by Turkey as meaning that Armenia will abandon its support for the international recognition of the Armenian Genocide and its lawful entitlement to territorial and compensatory reparations from Turkey.  Conversely, it is the ARF’s view that this clause must explicitly require Turkey to immediately and forever cease its shameful and reprehensible campaign of denying the Armenian Genocide and at evading its obligations for reparations to the Armenian people.

Third, the “Protocols” pointedly stipulate that Armenia must agree to “implement a dialogue on the historical dimension… including an impartial scientific examination of historical records and archives to define existing problems…”  This deceitful and most dangerous clause is a flagrant attempt to turn the obvious 94 year old political and legal controversy of the Armenian Genocide into an historical controversy. The fact of the Genocide has never been doubted by impartial historians and is reflected in the firsthand testimonies of not only its witnesses and its victims, but even in the testimony of its perpetrators dating back to post war Turkish tribunals and to the recent autobiographical revelations of Talaat Pasha’s own diary entries. Any agreement which entrusts political entities to re-undertake a “scientific examination” of the Genocide is a dangerous ploy, as well as an insult to the one and half million Armenian victims and to their survivors and progeny who have been dispossessed of their patrimony and their millennial old ancestral homeland.  This, the Armenian nation cannot and will not accept.

Was it not only a year ago that the U.S. State Department, in a letter signed by Acting Assistant Secretary of State Matthew A. Reynolds, affirmed its official policy to then Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Joseph Biden when it stated: “Our goal is to help archivists protect the evidence of the past so that future generations will have the documentation of the mass killings and deportation of Armenian committed by Ottoman soldiers and other Ottoman officials in 1915. Our goal is not to open a debate on whether the Ottomans committed these horrendous acts; it to to help preserve the documentation that supports the truth of those events…the Administration recognizes that the mass killings, ethnic cleansing, and forced deportations of over one and half million Armenians were conducted by the Ottoman Empire. We indeed hold Ottoman officials responsible for those crimes.”

We look to the Armenian government to take heed of the official public policy expressed by the United States government in July of 2008 and not be trapped, coerced or otherwise blackmailed into negating its own Genocide. History will not look favorably upon the authors of such a monumental disaster.

Once again we look forward to the establishment of good relations with Turkey, but those relations cannot be based on lies and upon coercion, but must begin with acknowledgment of the mistakes of the past and the proper measure of atonement to a create an honest atmosphere of true good faith if we are ever to get on with our children’s futures.

The Armenian government cannot and is not allowed to compromise the truth, to surrender our rights, and to endanger our national security.

September 1, 2009
Central Committee Of The
Armenian Revolutionary Federation
Of Western United States



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´.- Êûë»Éáí »ñÏáõ ÅáÕáíáõñ¹Ý»ñáõ ÙÇç»õ ÷áËíëï³Ñáõû³Ý í»ñ³Ï³Ý·ÝÙ³Ý »õ  »ñÏËûëáõû³Ý Ýå³ï³Ïáí  å³ïÙ³Ï³Ý ³ñËÇõÝ»ñáõ áõëáõÙݳëÇñáõû³Ý ÙÇçáóáí ·áÛáõÃÇõÝ áõÝ»óáÕ ËݹÇñÝ»ñáõ Ûëï³Ï»óÙ³Ý Ù³ëÇÝ, г۳ëï³Ý ÏÁ ѳٳӳÛÝÇ ò»Õ³ëå³Ýáõû³Ý ׳ݳãÙ³Ý Ñ³ñóÁ ÷³Ï»É, µ³õ³ñ³ñáõ»Éáí Û³ÝÓݳÅáÕáí³ÛÇÝ ùÝݳñÏáõÙÝ»ñáí:

¶.-ì»ñ³Ñ³ëï³ï»Éáí »ñÏáõ »ñÏÇñÝ»ñáõ ÙÇç»õ ·áÛáõÃÇõÝ áõÝ»óáÕ ÁݹѳÝáõñ ë³ÑÙ³ÝÇ ÷á˳¹³ñÓ ×³Ý³ãáõÙÁ,  г۳ëï³Ý ÏÁ ѳٳӳÛÝÇ  ׳ÝãÝ³É Ñ³Ûáõû³Ý å³ñï³¹ñáõ³Í γñëÇ å³Ûٳݳ·ÇñÁ:

ò³ñ¹ ÏÁ Ëûëáõ¿ñ ³é³Ýó ݳ˳å³ÛÙ³ÝÝ»ñáõ, ѳÛ-Ãñù³Ï³Ý Û³ñ³µ»ñáõÃÇõÝÝ»ñáõ ѳëï³ïÙ³Ý Ù³ëÇÝ, ë³Ï³ÛÝ ³Ûë ³ñӳݳ·ñáõû³Ýó ³ÙµáÕç µáí³Ý¹³ÏáõÃÇõÝÁ Ù»½ ÏÁ Ûáõß¿, áñ ë³ÑÙ³ÝÇ µ³óÙ³Ý ¹ÇÙ³ó ß³ï ëáõÕ ·ÇÝ åÇïÇ í׳ñ¿ áÕç ѳ۠ ÅáÕáíáõñ¹Á: ºÃ¿ ë³ÑÙ³ÝÇ µ³óÙ³Ý »õ ÙÇçå»ï³Ï³Ý Û³ñ³µ»ñáõÃÇõÝÝ»ñáõ ѳëï³ïÙ³Ý ·ÇÝÁ åÇïÇ ÁÉÉ³Û ò»Õ³ëå³Ýáõû³Ý ÷³ëïÁ ϳëϳÍÇ ï³Ï ³éÝ»ÉÁ »õ ÙÇçå»ï³Ï³Ý å³ïÙ³µ³ÝÝ»ñáõ Û³ÝÓݳËáõÙµÇ ëï»ÕÍÙ³Ý ÙÇçáóáí Ø»Í »Õ»éÝÇ áõñ³óáõÙÁ, ³å³ ½³ÛÝ å¿ïù ¿ ¹Çï³ñÏ»É áñå¿ë Ù»Í ¹³õ³×³ÝáõÃÇõÝ Ù»ñ ³ÝÙ»Õ ½áÑ»ñáõ ÛÇß³ï³ÏÇÝ  áõ ѳٳÛÝ Ñ³Ûáõû³Ý Ýϳïٳٵ:

ÀݹáõÝ»Éáí áõ í³õ»ñ³óÝ»Éáí ѳÛ-Ãñù³Ï³Ý ׳ݳå³ñѳÛÇÝ ù³ñï¿ëÁ, Ø»ñ ÅáÕáíáõñ¹ÇÝ ÏÁ    å³ñï³¹ñáõÇ áã ÙdzÛÝ Ññ³Å³ñÇÉ Ù»ñ ï³ñ³Íù³ÛÇÝ å³Ñ³Ýç³ïÇñáõûݿÝ, ³ÛÉ Ý³»õª ÏÁ  µ³ó³é¿ È»éݳÛÇÝ Ô³ñ³µ³ÕÇ Ð³Ýñ³å»ïáõû³Ý ѻﳷ³Û Ù³ëݳÏóáõÃÇõÝÁ µ³Ý³Ïó³ÛÇÝ ·áñÍÁÝóóÇÝ »õ  ²ñó³ËÇ ×³Ï³ï³·ñÇ Ï³ÝËáñáßáõÙÁª ³é³Ýó ³Ý·³Ù ³ñó³Ë³Ñ³Ûáõû³Ý ϳÙùÁ ÝϳïÇ ³éÝ»Éáõ:

Ø»Ýù µ³½ÙÇóë Û³Ûï³ñ³ñ³Í »Ýù, áñ гÛ-Âñù³Ï³Ý Û³ñ³µ»ñáõÃÇõÝÝ»ñáõ ϳñ·³õáñáõÙÁ ãÇ Ïñݳñ  Çñ³Ï³Ý³óáõÇÉ ³é³Ýó ê÷ÇõéùÇ Ù³ëݳÏóáõû³Ý, ù³Ý½Ç ³Ûëûñáõ³Û ê÷ÇõéùÇ ·áÛáõÃÇõÝÁ ÑÇÙݳϳÝÇÝ Ù¿ç  å³Ûٳݳõáñáõ³Í ¿ ÂáõñùÇáÛ ÏáÕÙ¿ Çñ³Ï³Ý³óáõ³Í ò»Õ³ëå³Ýáõû³Ùµ: ²é³Ýó ѳßáõÇ ³éÝ»Éáõ Ñ³Û ÅáÕáíñ¹Ç ѳõ³ù³Ï³Ý ϳñÍÇùÁ, г۳ëï³ÝÇ Çß˳ÝáõÃÇõÝÝ»ñÁ Ù»½ ÏÁ ¹Ý»Ý ³ÝÑ»é³Ýϳñ áõ íï³Ý·³õáñ ϳóáõû³Ý ÙÁ Ù¿ç:

лï»õ³µ³ñ, êáóÇ³É ¸»ÙáÏñ³ï ÐÝã³Ï»³Ý Îáõë³Ïóáõû³Ý ѳٳñ Ù»ñÅ»ÉÇ »Ý Ý»ñϳ۳óáõ³Í ÷³ëï³ÃáõÕûñÁ áõ Ù»Ýù å³ïñ³ëï »Ýù ·áñͳÏó»Éáõ Ù»ñ ³½·Ç µ³ÕϳóáõóÇã µáÉáñ ï³ññ»ñáõÝ Ñ»ï, ï³å³É»Éáõ ѳٳñ ³Ûë ѳٳӳÛݳ·ñ»ñáõ í»ñçÝ³Ï³Ý í³õ»ñ³óáõÙÁ: 

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êºäîºØ´ºð 1, 2009

Armenia te necesita. Estás?

 

El pasado 31 de Agosto, los ministros de relaciones exteriores de Armenia y Turquía publicaron un protocolo para la normalización de sus relaciones bilaterales.

Entre otros temas en este protocolo Armenia reconoce la frontera actual con Turquía, renunciando a los territorios usurpados por la república de turquía

y accede a la conformación de una comisión que evalúe "los hechos históricos y archivos para definir problemas existentes y realizar recomendaciones", hecho que pone en duda la existencia del genocidio armenio.
 
Como "beneficio" para Armenia en el protocolo se establece la apertura de la frontera por parte de Turquía, punto cuyo valor para nuestro país es al menos, discutible.
 
Hay que tomar en cuenta que estos temas nos incumben a TODOS, y el gobierno actual de Armenia ha negociado y acordado estos puntos de manera secreta. El anuncio de la "hoja de ruta" para la normalización de las relaciones Armenio-Turcas el 22 de abril despertó el rechazo unánime de los partidos políticos históricos.
 
Este documento tira por la borda un trabajo de casi un siglo. Deshace todos los esfuerzos que nuestros padres y abuelos han hecho por nuestra justa causa. Olvida a todas las personas que sacrificaron sus vidas por nuestras tierras. Este documento, niega la masacre de nuestros familiares, niega su existencia y los sepulta en el olvido.
 
Claramente estamos frente a una situación de emergencia. Previamente a su implementación, este protocolo deberá ser aprobado en los respectivos parlamentos. El plazo es de 6 semanas.
 
Tenemos que entender que hay cosas que podemos hacer para prevenir este fatal acuerdo. Desde la diáspora podemos y debemos contribuir para detener este proceso, el primer paso es estar informados y concientizados. 

 

English Adaptation

Armenia needs you. You?

 
On 31st August, the foreign ministers of Armenia and Turkey made public a protocol for the normalization of bilateral relations.

Among other topics, in this protocol,  Armenia recognizes the current border with Turkey giving up the territories usurped by the Republic of Turkey. Furthermore, it agrees to the formation of a committee to evaluate "the historical facts and files to identify problems and make recommendations", a fact that casts doubt on the existence of the Armenian genocide.
 
As compensation for Armenia, the protocol provides opening the border, a point whose value to our country is at least debatable.
 
We must bear in mind that these issues concern us all, and the current government of Armenia has negotiated and agreed upon these points in secret. The announcement of the "road map" for normalization of Armenian-Turkish relations on April 22 raised the unanimous rejection of the historical political parties.
 
This document throws overboard a job of nearly a century. It undermines all the efforts that our parents and grandparents have done for our just cause. Forget all those who sacrificed their lives for our land. This document, denies the slaughter of our families, denies their existence and buries them in oblivion.
 
Clearly, we are facing an emergency situation. Prior to its implementation, this protocol must be approved by the respective parliaments. The deadline is 6 weeks.
 
We must understand that there are things we can do to prevent this fatal agreement. The Diaspora can and should contribute to the efforts to stop this process. The first step is to be informed and be aware.

16 comments
  1. Normalization of Relations Between Armenia and Turkey

    The Genocide never ended. It continues symbolically until Turkey admits its crime against humanity in 1915-1917.

    Depending on whose figures you accept, between 1.5 million and 2.5 million martyrs were murdered. Armenians are being martyred still – but this time it’s economic, being a land-locked country. Yet, this sacrifice pales in comparison to those whose lives and futures were taken.

    Armenians cannot dishonor the ultimate sacrifice made by these martyrs by entering into diplomatic relations with Turkey under these terms. If they do, many Armenians in the diaspora will stop sending money to Armenia – and it is not an insignificant amount – so Armenia will be worse off in every way imaginable. And

    On a personal note, if normalization occurs under these terms, I will be deeply ashamed of being Armenian and will no longer refer to myself as such. I have never been ashamed of being an American.

  2. I personally know of no Armenian

    I personally know of no Armenian American who is active in, and knowledgeable about,  Armenian political affairs who supports these Protocols from Hell (ie. from Turkey).

    For example: When Turkey first proposed a joint study of 1915, it was widely considered a joke and a public relations stunt. 

    I know of no Armenian who thought it was a serious and worthwhile proposal.  Indeed, the International Association of Genocide Scholars – nearly all of whom are non-Armenians – sent a letter to Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan ridiculing the idea of a joint study. See here: No Place for Denial

    But now, we see that President Sargsian of Armenia has actually taken the proposal seriously and committed Armenia to it. In other words, Armenians are against the study, and so are non-Armenian experts, yet Sargsian thinks he knows better.  Obviously, he doesn’t.  Moreover, he has yet to explain why he believes a study is a good thing for Armenians.  It is clear that Turkey will sabotage the effort. I don’t need to explain anymore to Keghart readers.

    That is just one example of how bad the two so-called Protocols from Hell are for Armenians.  The other, of course, is that there are parts of the Protocols from Hell that sign away all future Armenian rights to land. There is absolutely no need for these Protocols.  

  3. The Diasporan communities should advertise their refusal

    Like it has been done in the past, our traditional political parties should  immediately draw up a manifesto, proclaiming their and the people´s refusal of such a one sided "compromise agreement".

    Buy political advertisement space on the first page of The New York Times, Washington Post, Moscow times, the Financial Times, the Figaro, Courriere de la Serra, El Pais, La  Nacion (Buenos Aires)  and a few others in Australia, Canada without wasting time, so that we shall not be dubbed as the dumb Armenians who after a century of demanding JUSTICE from the world have now given in.

    What? Who can come up and say "We the British", "We  the U.S." or "We the EU" are telling "what´s good for you.."? or "go ahead and sign your own sentence and capitulation to a century old adversary who evicted you from your ancestral lands and homes, destroying  your churches, monasteries, and subjected you to a Genocide." 

    This is unprecedented.

    True, there have been diplomatic negotiations only…which are subject to the approval of the people and their elected parliamentarians..

    Forgive? We will  indeed, if the crime committed by the previous Ottoman state is admitted and reparations are made including "blood money".  Prior to any agreement we should get paid for the blood shed, like  the Germans did to the Jews.

    Forget the hyenous crime? NEVER!

    Patience we have. We are over-patient and can wait for the opportune moment.

    I’d like to reiterate the suggestion of buying asvertisement in the major media, lest the big powers think they can go further with their ridiculous protocols drawn up only in their favour…act  we must!!     

  4. AGBU President Supports the Protocols

    The presidential Press Department reports that RoA President Serzh Sargsyan today met with AGBU President Berge Setrakian in Yerevan. President Sargsyan welcomed the active participation shown by the AGBU towards solving issues of a pan-national character and said that he always was glad to hear about the new projects of the organization. Setrakian informed the RoA President as to the current and future projects of the AGBU.

    The two also touched upon the latest developments regarding Armenian – Turkish dialogue and Mr. Setrakian stated that the the AGBU naturally was following events closely and with great anticipation. The press department says that Mr. Setrakian expressed AGBU’s support for the recent protocols leading to a normalization of Armenian-Turkish relations.

     Hetq

    1. What an utter

      What an utter disappointment! 

      I wonder if the president of the AGBU has felt the effects of the Genocide in his own family…..and if he has, obviously his conscience is turned off…..

      Unfortunately our share of Vasag Sunis keeps multiplying…..

      Any Armenian who feels that normal relations with Turkey are possible while Turkey still keeps denying the Genocide does not have the right to be called "Armenian".

      THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE IS NOT UP FOR NEGOTIATION!!!!!

      1. Name-calling has no place

        While sharing Tamar’s indignation and vehemently opposing the proposed Protocols in their present form, I earnestly object to declare people who hold contrary views as not being Armenian.

        It was not that long ago when we displayed such stupidity by calling people belonging or not belonging to this or that organisation as Armenian or non-Armenian. I thought we have shed that intolerant clan mentality. Alas it seems it shows its ugly face every now and then.

        This is not a moment to derange ourselves spiritually, mentally and psychologically. It is time for a true national discourse that may shape our future. Hence, we deserve a respectful attitude towards one another. Let us provide constructive criticism and proposals to rectify the matter by either making amendments or corrections and not engage ourselves in name-calling.

  5. Is AAA saying anything different than the US administration?

    AAA STATEMENT

    On August 31, 2009, the foreign ministries of Armenia, Turkey and Switzerland announced protocols to be signed within six weeks to establish  diplomatic relations between the Republic of Armenia and the Republic of Turkey and to open the border.
     
    Normalization of relations without preconditions
     
    This announcement is consistent with the U.S. position that normalization of relations between Armenia and Turkey proceed without preconditions. Armenian authorities have also made it clear that no preconditions means just that – no linkage to progress on the Nagorno Karabakh peace talks and no conditions on affirmation of the Armenian Genocide, or debating whether a genocide occurred through a commission-style process. The incontestable fact of the Armenian Genocide is internationally recognized, and Turks and Armenians have previously commissioned in 2003 an independent analysis through the International Center for Transitional Justice (ICTJ), which concluded that the events of 1915 constituted genocide.
     
    The Armenian Assembly supports normalization of relations between Armenia and Turkey without preconditions. The United States has spoken clearly about the need for Turkey to lift its blockade and establish diplomatic relations with Armenia. Turkey's lifting of its blockade against Armenia and opening the border is not only long overdue but obligated under international treaties. For this long-awaited effort to succeed, it is incumbent that the United States require Turkey to adhere to its commitments with respect to Armenia.
     
    Unequivocal affirmation of the Armenian Genocide
     
    While the August 31st announcement represents an important step, experience has shown that reconciliation between Armenia and Turkey requires Turkey to come to terms with its past. President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have all spoken eloquently on the need to recognize the Armenian Genocide.  We could not agree more and urge President Obama and the U.S. Congress to unequivocally affirm the Armenian Genocide.  In so doing, the United States will honor a proud chapter in U.S. history in helping to save the survivors of the first genocide of the twentieth century.
     
    Turkey's track record of broken promises
     
    The Armenian Assembly views as encouraging the commitments made by the government of Turkey to normalize relations with Armenia without preconditions.  However, we recall Turkey's ample track record of unfulfilled promises. As such, many remain skeptical as prior governments of Armenia had also offered to normalize relations with Turkey without preconditions only to be rebuffed.
     
    Moreover, it is of particular concern that on the same day as the joint statement released by the Armenian and Turkish foreign ministries regarding the start of consultations to establish diplomatic relations that Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu sent mixed signals. Foreign Minister Davutoglu not only indicated that the opening of the border would be 'a long process,' but also stated that Turkey would guard Azerbaijan's interests.
     
    These pronouncements by Turkey's Foreign Minister not only breach the spirit of framework just announced, but also directly contradict U.S. policy 'that normalization should take place without preconditions and within a reasonable timeframe.'
     

     

  6. ԲՀԿ–ն համաձայն է
    ԲՀԿ–ն համաձայն է իշխանությունների հետ հայ–թուրքական հարաբերությունների հարցում

    Հայ–թուրքական հարաբերությունների կարգավորմանն առնչվող զարգացումների վերաբերյալ այսօր հայտարարությամբ է հանդես եկել «Բարգավաճ Հայաստան» կուսակցությունը։ Զարմանալի է, որ խորհրդարանում մեծությամբ երկրորդ խմբակցությունը կարևորագույն հարցի վերաբերյալ իր կարծիքը հայտնեց Արձանագրությունների նախաստորագրումից 5 օր անց։ ԲՀԿ–ի հայտարարության մեջ, մասնավորապես, ասված է.

    ««Բարգավաճ Հայաստան» կուսակցությունը հայ-թուրքական հարաբերութունների կարգավորման հարցում առաջնորդվում է իր ծրագրային հիմնադրույթներում ամրագրված այն մոտեցումով, ըստ որի Հայոց ցեղասպանության միջազգային ճանաչման հարցում Հայաստանի Հանրապետության մասնակցության չափն ու ուղենիշերը պայմանավորված պետք է լինեն ազգային, պետական իրատեսական շահերով։ Միաժամանակ, կուսակցության դիրքորոշման համաձայն, Հայոց ցեղասպանության միջազգային ճանաչումն ու դատապարտումը այլնըտրանք չունի։

    Առաջնորդվելով «Բարգավաճ Հայաստան» կուսակցության քաղաքական-ծրագրային վերոնշյալ հիմնադրույթներով՝ հայ-թուրքական հարաբերությունների կարգավորման վերջին զարգացումների կապակցությամբ մենք գտնում ենք, որ
    1. hրապարակված փաստաթղթերում, ընդհանուր առմամբ, արտացոլված են առանց նախապայմանների հայ-թուրքական հարաբերությունների կարգավորման ԲՀԿ մոտեցումները, որոնք ընկած են նաև ՀՀ արտաքին քաղաքականության հիմքում։
    2. Գտնում ենք, որ հայ-թուրքական առանց նախապայմանների երկխոսության ծավալումը խթան կարող է հանդիսանալ նաև Հայոց ցեղասպանության միջազգային ճանաչման գործընթացի և թուրք հասարակության շրջանում հանրային գիտակցության փոփոխման հարցում։ Կոշտ կամ պարտադրանքների ճանապարհով տվյալ հիմնահարցի արծարծումը համարում ենք առավել անիրատեսական։
    3. Մեզ համար ընդունելի է, որ նախաստորագրված արձանագրություններում բացակայում է որևէ հիշատակում Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի հակամարտության մասին, որը որպես նախապայման թուրքական կողմը բազմիցս ներկայացրել էր Հայաստանի հետ դիվանագիտական հարաբերությունների հաստատման առնչությամբ։
    4. Հայ-թուրքական հարաբերությունների կարգավորման դրական միտումներ պարունակող առաջարկ է նաև միջկառավարական հանձնաժողովի ստեղծումը, որը թույլ կտա կառավարական ամենաբարձր մակարդակով քննարկել հայ-թուրքական հարաբերությունների բոլոր կնճռոտ հարցերը, այդ թվում և Թուրքիայի կողմից Հայոց ցեղասպանության ճանաչման հարցը»։

  7. ADL Eastern District of US and Canada Agree

    The District Committee of the Armenian Democratic Liberal Party of Eastern US and Canada welcomes the announcement by the Foreign Ministries of Armenia and Turkey to establish diplomatic relations between the two countries, with the mediation of the Swiss government.

    The two Protocols released by the Foreign Ministry of Armenia reveal all details of the procedures to be pursued for the establishment and development of relations between the two republics to be implemented within the forthcoming several months, leading to consular establishments, opening of the border and stimulating trade between the two countries. The all-encompassing Protocols are aimed at establishing a working relationship in the political, economic, transport, energy, cultural, scientific and other spheres based upon various European and international conventions. Intergovernmental commissions and sub-commissions shall pursue the development of those relations, including restoration of “mutual confidence between the two nations, … to define existing problems and formulate recommendations… .”

    We note that Armenian President Serge Sargisian reiterates to the BBC correspondent that Armenia remains firm on developing relations without preconditions. Answering to a question whether he is prepared to make concessions on the events of 1915, Sargisian answers, “We state that there was Genocide, regardless whether Turkey recognizes it today or not. That fact is recognized by genocide experts throughout the world, … but we do not submit recognition of the Genocide as a precondition to establishment of relations.”

    Provided that Turkey does not back down again during this process, at the end of the day, the proactive football policy of the Armenian government will mark a political victory for Armenia, as Turkey finally realizes that in a civilized world good neighborly relations are beneficial to both countries.
     

    The Armenian Democratic Liberal Party of Eastern US and Canada fully supports the Armenian government’s policies in starting the process of establishing diplomatic relations with Turkey and wishes success in the implementation of the Protocols agreed upon by both countries.

    The ADL will continue the pursuit of recognition of the Armenian Genocide perpetrated by Turkey, and will work with the Armenian organizations in the Diaspora and in Armenia for the restoration of Armenian rights.

    District Committee
    Armenian Democratic Liberal Party
    Eastern District of US and Canada
    September 1, 2009

  8. Congress of Armenia objects to “committee” of historians
    ՀԱՅՏԱՐԱՐՈՒԹՅՈՒՆ

    Հայ–թուրքական հարաբերությունների հաստատման արձանագրությունների մասին

    1. Հայ–թուրքական հարաբերությունների կարգավորումը բխում է երկու երկրների եւ ժողովուրդների, ինչպես նաեւ տարածաշրջանային խաղաղության եւ կայունության շահերից։
    2. Հայաստանի եւ Թուրքիայի միջեւ դիվանագիտական հարաբերությունների հաստատման եւ երկկողմ հարաբերությունների զարգացման վերաբերյալ արձանագրությունները զգալի տեղաշարժ են այդ ուղղությամբ։
    3. Անընդունելի է հայ եւ թուրք պատմաբանների միջկառավարական ենթահանձնաժողովի ստեղծման մասին դրույթը, որը կասկածի տակ է դնում Հայոց ցեղասպանության իրողությունը։
    4. Մտահոգություն է հարուցում երկու երկրների խորհրդարանների կողմից նշված փաստաթղթերի վավերացման պայմանը, որը Սերժ Սարգսյանին հնարավորություն է տալիս ենթահանձնաժողովի ստեղծման պատասխանատվությունը կիսել խորհրդարանի հետ, իսկ Թուրքիային՝ Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի խնդրի լուծված չլինելու պատճառաբանությամբ, ձգձգել վավերացման հարցը եւ դրանով հետաձգել հայ–թուրքական սահմանի բացումը։

    Հայ Ազգային Կոնգրեսի
    Կենտրոնական Գրասենյակ

  9. Protocols

    I am shocked and disappointed that a week after the protocols were made public there has been no massive demonstration in Armenia against the proposals. The Tashnak demonstration, held in Yerevan, was puny and was a dual-purpose event (commemorating the independence of Artsakh and condemning the protocols). As well, there has been no denunciation of the proposals by prominent Armenians in Armenia.

    Have we ("Speurk") been misreading the mood and priorities of Armenians living in the homeland? Does their silence mean consent? Are they too exhausted–emotionally and economically–to express their disagreement? Millions of them dared to demonstrate in 1965, to express their nationalistic feelings to the Soviet government. More than 25 years later another million demonstrated in support of the independence of Artsakh. Where are these people now? Do they still care about our survival? Are they the people–about a million–who have emigrated from Armenia in recent years?

    Perhaps there’s a chasm between Speurk and Armenia. After all, an increasing number of Armenians from Armenia have been vacationing in Turkey! They are rollicking in resorts which are stone’s throw from locales drenched with the blood of our grandparents. This is an unspeakable act that no Speurk Armenian I know of would contemplate, let alone undertake.

    While I am cognizant that some Speurk Armenians are pro the protocols, I fear that If Armenians living in Armenia support the protocols the result could be two solitudes–Armenia and Speurk, a trip back to the future of the bad Cold War era.

  10. Repair of erred negotiations

     
    Dear Mr. President Sargsyan:
     
    The Armenian community in Armenia, Karabakh, and the Diaspora is duefully concerned that the agreement protocol between Turkey and Armenia does not represent Armenia’s national interests and harms Karabakh’s vitality and future. The best manner to redirect the course of these negotiations at this time would be to make notable amends to our foreign policy. 

    Therefore, we as Armenians propose to replace our Minister of Foreign Affairs with a skillful politician who is well versed with international politics and dialogue.  Many competent Armenians would be solid candidates […] They could provide useful consultation in external affairs and safeguard Armenia’s rights and Karabakh’s independence.

     
    Respectfully yours,
     
    Ishkhan Babajanian MD. USA
  11. Statement of Congress of Canadian Armenians


     
    On August 31, 2009, the foreign ministries of Armenia, Turkey and Switzerland jointly announced protocols to be signed within six weeks to establish diplomatic relations between the Republic of Armenia and the Republic of Turkey. They produced two documents, which provide details on the initial steps to be taken for the normalization of relations, the establishment of consular representation, and the opening of the current border between the two countries. The Armenian people in both the homeland and the Diaspora are following these negotiations with great interest and some concern.
     
    The government of Armenia has made it clear that there can be no preconditions by either side to any agreement that is signed. These include the right of the Armenian people to have the Armenian Genocide recognized, the validity of any claims that arise as a result of this recognition, and the right of the people of Nagorno-Karabakh to live freely as expressed when they exercised their legitimate right for self-determination.
     
    The government of Armenia is motivated by economic and geopolitical concerns to reach an agreement, including national security and the need to improve the flow of trade for the landlocked country. It faces difficult challenges in the weeks ahead as it tries to build improved good relations between Armenia and Turkey, without imposing preconditions but at the same time safeguarding the fundamental and historic rights of the Armenian people.
     
    The start of negotiations between Armenia and Turkey has been favourably and strongly encouraged by the international community. The sole opponent to this has been Azerbaijan. For almost two decades, Turkey and Azerbaijan have blockaded Armenia due to the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, and in the past Turkey has used this unresolved conflict as justification for its refusal to pursue a separate rapprochement with Armenia. Hopefully Turkey will now continue its negotiations with Armenia in good faith, although its track record in this regard causes some scepticism.
     
    The Congress of Canadian Armenians, together with the Armenian General Benevolent Union, the Armenian Assembly of America and many other respected organizations in the Diaspora, supports normalization of relations between Armenia and Turkey without preconditions. Turkey’s blockade against Armenia and the closing of its border, which has directly hurt the economic wellbeing of the people of Armenia, is not only overdue but obligated under international treaties.
     
    Although normalization of relations is an important step, true reconciliation between Armenia and Turkey requires Turkey to come to terms with its past. Numerous countries, including Canada, have already recognized the Armenian Genocide, and the European Union has urged Turkey to do the same before it joins it as a member in a few years.
     
    The Congress of Canadian Armenians is cautiously optimistic, and will continue to closely monitor developments.

    September 16th, 2009
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    Established in 2004, the Congress of Canadian Armenians is comprised of many of the large Canadian Armenian organizations. It serves as a united voice to present Armenian issues to the Canadian public and to promote Armenian interests.

  12. The Congress finally speaks

    Is it any better than what the Assembly had to say? Birds of same feather fly together.

  13. Catholicos Karekin II Issues Announcement on Protocols

    Asbarez Sep 30th, 2009
     
    ETCHMIADZIN (A1plus)—His Holiness Catholicos Karekin II convened a special meeting of the Supreme Spiritual Council of the Holy Sea of Etchmian on Wednesday where he issued an announcement on the ongoing Turkey-Armenia normalization process and the two protocols that will establish diplomatic relations between the two countries.
     
    Below are his remarks:
     
    The Supreme Spiritual Council welcomes the process to establish diplomatic ties free of preconditions between Armenia and Turkey and the process to normalize Armenian-Turkish relations, for the sake of regional security, preservation of peace and the development of regional cooperation. The Supreme Spiritual Council positively assesses the pan-Armenian discussions currently taking place surrounding this process.
     
    The Supreme Spiritual Council considers as natural and understandable the concerns of Armenians living in Armenia, Artsakh and the Diaspora, within the context of the bitter historical experience of our people with Turkey, Turkey’s official policy of denying the Armenian Genocide, Turkey’s intolerant position expressed toward the Republic of Armenia, as well as the formulations contained in the yet to be signed protocols regarding Armenian-Turkish relations that have caused various interpretations, and the unacceptable statements coming from the Turkish side associated with this process.
     
  14. Aram I Appeals to Sarkisian on Protocols

     Asbarez Sep 23rd, 2009

    ANTELLIAS, Lebanon—His Holiness Aram I, Catholicos of the Great House of Cilicia, on Monday sent a letter to President Serzh Sarkisian expressing concerns over the Turkey-Armenia protocols and urging the president to engage the entire Armenian nation in this critical pan-national issue.

    In his extensive letter, the Catholicos outlines concerns, more vocally about the threats the protocols bring to the veracity of the Armenian Genocide, the Karabakh conflict resolution process and the imperative of addressing this critical issue from pan-national perspective.

    Aram I pointed out that the very existence of the Diaspora is a direct result of the Genocide and forced upon the Armenian nation.

    “The recognition of and reparations for the Armenian Genocide are part of our national struggle. Thus it is imperative to approach the matter carefully and with the great deal of sensitivity,” said the Catholicos in his letter warning that the Genocide issue cannot be part of the negotiation process, as it is know fact.

    “In a set of conditions, Turkey is likely to pressure Armenia. Ankara will pursue to expunge the memory of 1.5 million slaughtered Armenians,” said the Catholicos who urged the president and his administration to have a firm position on the Genocide.

    The Catholicos also expressed his deep concern about the negative consequences of the protocols on the fragile Karabakh conflict resolution. He urged the president to ensure that the Turkey-Armenia normalization does not adversely impact the Karabakh process.

    He advised that the matter of the relations should be discussed nationally and a solution to confront the challenges facing the nation should be given by Armenia, Karabakh and Diaspora in unison.

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