Putin Comes to Rescue of el-Assad, Minorities

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1. Color it Yellow

   Having characterized the German Government housing allocation of the Syrian refugees as "concentration camps”, Hamo Moskofian undermined his credibility as a reporter. No matter what, he has tainted his journalistic reporting and colored it “yellow”.

2. I’m very impressed

   I'm very impressed by Mr. Moskofian's article about Syria and Russia.

3. Putin Comes to the Rescue

   First I would like to thank Dr. Dikran Abrahamian of Keghart.com of Canada and Nor Serount of the US for printing and appreciating my articles as a reporter who has lived nearly all his life in the conflict and war zones of the Middle East and the Caucasus.

   Concerning the "yellow" mentality of Vahe, I want to inform him that I have frequently visited Germany–"the Forepost of Turkey", the country which boasts "Turkish" towns, mosques, Moslem extremist and Turkish nationalist "breeding" centers which openly work as they fund and train ISIS and other satanic organizations for murderous activities and crimes against humanity in Syria. It was only after pressure from the Vatican, progressive forces and intellectuals of Germany that Germany acknowledged the Armenian Genocide this year while at the same time Chancellor Angela Merkel promises Erdogan's Turkey help to become a member of the European "family".

   Through our daily contacts with Syrian and Syrian-Armenian refugees, who have arrived in Germany, after horrific journeys from Izmir (Turkey) to Greece, Serbia, and Hungary, we have learned that they find themselves in modern concentration camps. Germany and Greece are the scapegoats of the NATO adventurers in the Middle East, while the oil sharks and billionaires such as Bush have destroyed 7,000- year-old civilizations in the Middle East. The many victims of the bloody Middle East adventure are now being thrown to Europe and particularly Germany. These Syrian and Iraqi victims, who had lost everything they owned,  now receive 30 Euros and some food per week.

   1. Mr. Moskofian:I agree with

      Mr. Moskofian:

      I agree with you thanking Keghart.com for publishing your article, particularly with the headline “Putin Comes to the Rescue”.

      Neocon infested Western media has been conducting a demonization campaign against President Putin and Russia, because Russia threw a monkey-wrench into their plans to do to Syria what the criminals did to Iraq and Libya. Unfortunately many Diaspora Armenian news outlets and websites have also joined the anti-Putin chorus.

      As to Germany and AG: Germany has not – has not –  officially recognized the Armenian Genocide, despite German President Joachim Gauck’s powerful pronouncement in that regard.

      In fact, latest news is that  Bundestag has shelved the AG discussion indefinitely. The ostensible reason is the refugees crises. But German press reports that Merkel does not want to “anger” Erdogan (!). Imagine that: mighty Germany does not want to “anger” a tinpot criminal Turk neo-Sultan.
      That’s how low Europeans have sunk.
      That's how low the cradle of Western Christian civilization has sunk.
      They are prostrating themselves in front of nomads from Uyguristan. 

      It gets worse: now the spineless lot is negotiating with Turkey to give them $3 billion, lifting of visa restrictions, and re-start of EU accession talks.
      So the criminal Erdogan creates the human catastrophe in Syria (…..with Neocon help), then arranges to send 100s of 1000s of “refugees” into Europe, and the self-destructive Europeans are negotiating with the gangster to reward him for his terrorism.

      I put “refugees” in quotes, because if you look at the pictures of “refugees” flooding into Europe, about 80%-90% are young, healthy, single men.
      New slogan: “Future Jihadists, Europe welcomes you with open arms”.

      And some Armenians are calling President Putin a “dictator”?

      God help us.

   2. Bravo Mr. Moskofian

      Bravo, Mr. Moskofian! Thank you for telling it as it is. While our ever gullible people continue looking up to the decadent/criminal West for guidance, it is the Russian nation that is preventing the first genocide of the 21st century from taking place in the Middle East – by essentially the same people who carried out the first genocide of the 20th century against Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians exactly one hundred years ago.

      Russia today is single handedly standing up against the Anglo-American-Franco-Jewish alliance and their Salafist/Wahabist and Turkish friends in the region and making the existence of peoples like Alawites in Syria, Shiites in Lebanon, Iranians and Armenians possible. We all need to thank God (as well as Vladimir Putin) that despite the Western fetish that many of us Armenians have, Armenia remains allied to the Russian Bear.

   3. Armed to Kill in Syria

      Hamo,
      Pro-Assad and against Assad forees are not armed and made to kill each other against their will. They are armed and they wage war against each other because that is the way they believe is their best option to bring about change to solve the myriad problems they face. Whether you believe or not in the kind of change they advocate or whether one faction should only be armed and not the other is another matter altogether.

      All the convenient explanations that it is the western powers which are the culprits and the cause of the situation in Syria is, politely put, an easy and convenient way failed societies resort to attributing their societal ills. 

      Your lengthy rebuttal to my remark does not justify your calling the German Government housing allocation to Syrian refugees as concentration camps and further erodes your credibility as a journalist.

      1. “Failed Societies”

         It is a fact that “failed societies” which are subservient to or allied to the west are not subjected to the “change they advocate”. Saudi Arabia, for example. A medieval, misogynist sultanate where nobody has any rights except the royal clan. Beheadings there have reached a new record in 2015.
         US-ally Bahrain: torture, extra-judicial killings, violent suppression of peaceful demonstrations. A democratic uprising in Bahrain was violently crushed with the help of invading Saudi military, while the alleged champions of democracy in the west looked the other way.
         How is it that “change they advocate” is not allowed in those societies? But those who do not bow to imperial US are subjected to “liberation”.
         Which of the following countries is better off now compared to before the west brought “democracy” to them: Iraq? Libya? Syria?
         US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria “F___ EU” Nuland discussing which puppet to install in Kiev with thhe US ambassor to Ukraine is not a convenient explanation: it is  a fact.
         When posters claim “there is nothing to see here, move along” (paraphrased) and deny the existence of the elephant in room, then they expose themselves and their agenda.
         Whose credibility is it exactly that has been eroded here?

      2. Tension Everywhere

         Vahe,
         Let me try to explain it to you in this way: Do you agree that all societies, without exception, have internal problems, some more severe than others? I'm sure you do. Now, as we all know, the US also has internal problems: tension between whites and blacks; tension between whites and Hispanics; tension between blacks and Hispanics; tension between liberals and conservatives, etc.

         Now imagine a day when the central government has become weak for a variety of reasons and outside forces gradually begin "meddling" in America's internal affairs. Nations who have set their eyes on the US begin setting up propaganda outlets (news agencies) and subversive organizations (NGOs) to influence thought and political discourse in the country. Imagine an outside force coming into the US and gradually, systematically encouraging blacks, right wing whites, Hispanics or American-Indians to seek self rule or something similar. Imagine if groups of blacks, whites, Hispanics or American-Indians are then armed and encouraged to violence. What do you think will happen? The answer is  bloody mayhem.

         What I just described is more-or-less what your favorite criminals in Washington have been doing around the world within nations that have serious internal problems and/or are too weak to resist. Nevertheless, for you to defend the western powers and blame Arabs for their terrible plight is utterly sickening.

         PS: Concentration camp is just that: a camp where people are concentrated in large numbers. Refugee camps in Europe, particularly the ones that are enclosed or fenced off and the people inside do not have the freedom to travel are, by definition, concentration camps. The humanitarian crisis in Syria was created by the US, Britain, France, Israel, Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. It's the leadership of these countries that should be held accountable for what is happening.

         1. “Sickening”

            Harutik,
            I end my comments by noting that you need not, nor should you be “sickened” on account of what I say and if it happens that I as a citizen of the United States. To raise arms against another citizen at the instigation of others, I would be an instrument that would have helped to undermine this great society and no one else. Apparently, you conveniently tend to abrogate that responsibility.

            Unfortunately, I do not read Arabic that well any more. But I regularly follow Arab editors or columnists who contribute in English to the "Daily Star" in Lebanon. They do not editorialize what I hear here said by Armenians who apparently have low opinion of Arabs and seem to regard them as puppets whose strings are pulled to act at the whim of  the “evil” western powers.

   4. Facts or Opinions

      Hamo Moskofians' article contains factual errors or misleading quotes such as "ISIS comitted genocide of minorities (especially Christians)". How is this substantiated? Is there any evidence of "genocides" in Kessab, for example or Aleppo or in Christian the villages of "Wadi al Nasara" or in the famous Christian town of Sidnaya? Were Kurds  mass-murdered? 

      Next, the Iraqi government pays $68,000 per aircraft per day (to the US Army) to bomb ISIS. Are there any references supporting this statement? 

      Last but not least, as France, the UK and the US, according to Moskofian, armed Muslim fanatics to destroy Syria (in the interest of their national policies) similarly Russia's cowboy President Putin intervened in Syria (for enhancing its own power games and not necessarily for minorities as Moskofian hints). Salvaging Assad's regime does not mean salvaging the country. 

      There is one fundamental issue that is being forgotten in most of Syria-centric debates (especially by Diaspora Armenians). Moskofian and his anti-American (anti-Imperialist, anti-isolationist, as the Baath regime would describe it) partisans forget that the person first and foremost responsible for Syria's current situation is Bashar al-Assad and his ruling circle. Back in 2011, he could not read the changing dynamics of the region. He did not learn the lesson. If he had compromised then and relinquished his autocratic methods (and introduced political freedoms, elections, partnering in rule) instead of resorting to beating, terrorizing and killing techniques, Syria could have avoided the vicious civil war. He is entrusted with security the unity, peace and physical protection of his country and people. Don't blame the US,  Erdogan, the KSA or anyone else for looking after their interests and doing what they want to do. Blame the stupid Syrian regime for giving them opportunity.

      1. Putin Comes to the Rescue

         Vartkes, it seems you and your masters in Washington, Riad, Ankara, Paris and elsewhere did not teach you lessons about meeting and talking to Armenian, Assyrian, Chaldean, Kurdish, Yezidi, Syrian, and Iraqi survivors in Kurdistan Iraq, Germany or elsewhere or see the wives or mothers of beheaded Lebanese soldiers, the raped and sold as slaves innocent children by your ISIS brothers who were photographed in restaurants in Turkey with the members of the ruling AK party.
         I have been to all the places I mentioned in my aricle. I saw the victims of massacres and of deportations, including Armenians.

         For your knowledge, I was once a political prisoner in the harshest Syrian military dungeons and was freed only after the visit of President Levon Ter Bedrossian to Syria in 1992. You cannot teach me what the Assad regime was like for 40 years,

         For your knowledge, as was the case with Saddam Hussein, the Assad's Alawis were brought to power by Washington so that Communists would not take over the government through democratic elections. To forget what CIA did to Salvatore Allende of Chile and what the American secret service's terrorist baby in Afghanistan–Ben Laden, the son of Saudi billionaire–is shameful. Soon it will be the turn of the adopted son of Senator McCain–ISIS leader al Baghdadi–and his butchers.

         We are not talking about North Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan,where the heroic Kim Il Sung and Gen.Giap defeated the French and the American colonialist who killed and maimed millions of people. Who dropped the atomic bombs on Heroshima and Nagasaki? Are you reading what US presidential candidate Donald Trump is saying about the forging of facts by the Bush administration in Iraq and destroying a powerful state and. robbing billions of dollars worth of Iraqi treasures?

         Sir, are you following your sweetheart Saudis and the massacres they are committing in impoverished Yemen in the name of Allah?

         Before accusing anybody, remind or whisper to your masters about these facts…

         Hamo Moskofian
          

         1. Excellent Rebuttal, Mr. Moskofian

            Excellent rebuttal, Mr. Moskofian.

            I don’t know all the details about how the Syrian protests escalated into a civil war, but I vaguely remember the protests and the shootings which eventually morphed into the situation Syria is in now.

            From my Syrian-Armenian relatives living there, I heard that Syrian authorities responded with force only when security people were shot at and killed by persons unknown.

            I remember some of the atrocities, as reported by the western media, against the Syrian government by foreign financed and supported terrorists, such as throwing unarmed, defenseless Syrian post office employees from the top of buildings to their deaths.

            But individuals like Vartkes, who are quick to point out the faults of “dictators” such as Assad, conveniently forget the far worse, real, medieval dictators/sultans/kings who are left untouched by the neocons, because they are subservient to them and carry out their orders. For example, the same type of  popular demonstration that took place in Syria also took place in Bahrain in 2011. It was  violently suppressed with the help of the Saudi Arabian military. The same people who complain about lack of democracy under Assad, quietly looked the other way, while Bahraini democracy was crushed.

            The US and its satellites are not really interested in democracy: only that a state must submit – or it will be “liberated”.

            Maybe Mr. Vartkes can explain why is it that US is not “concerned” about human rights, democracy, etc. in the Gulf sheikdoms.

            In Assad’s Syria women were/are not treated like breeding cattle as they are in the medieval Gulf sheikdoms. Nobody has any rights there, except the sheiks/kings and their extended clan of multiple wives and hundreds of cousins. But that’s OK, because, you know, they are “our” dictators.

         2. Putin to the Rescue

            Hamo,

            First, it is not appropriate to personalize debates; you need to shoot the message and not the messenger. I do not have "masters" anywhere and I do not write for money like others. 

            Second, you admitted that you were one of tens of thousands of Lebanese, Syrian, Jordanian, Palestinian, Kurdish individuals who were imprisoned and tortured in Syrian prisons. So we agree that it was and it is a brutal regime, that does not care about your being Armenian, Assyrian, Sunni or Shiite when it comes to preserving its own interests, which are the perpetuation of Alawi-Al Assad rule and maintaining a sphere of influence among nearby countries.

            Also I am not sure what you heard from people in Germany and Kurdistan. Using the word "genocide" and "massacres" in the case of ISIS in Syria is exaggerated and does not relate to reality. If your article is a piece from a "novel" then its fine to make such claims but if its a piece of journalism then its not appropriate. 

            Then you make a very superficial assessment of the Syrian regime by talking about the liberties women enjoyed there and nothing else. Before the 2011 demonstrations started, young men and women were being arrested, tortured and imprisoned for their political views. In December 2010, an 18-year-old girl was imprisoned because she wrote anti-regime tweet in Twitter. Her "crime" was being an agent of CIA. Of course in Syria no one asks for evidence, fair trial, etc. Your beloved Kurds were crushed and imprisoned in the thousands after thee Qamishli incidents in 2004. Even before that, they were repressed and not allowed to speak or teach their language. So what Syrians were experiencing was political repression, lack of freedom, lack of human rights, oligarchic economy closely linked to the Assad family members, state-corruption, extreme poverty in rural areas where majority of the Muslim Sunnis live, etc.

            You ignore all these facts and continue playing the CIA-west-KSA song like a broken record. I did not mention Yemen and Afghanistan in my response because we were discussing Syria and Putin. Of course KSA is equally brutal and its dictatorship must go. But does that in anyway justify Syrian regime's atrocities and its great failure to understand its people.

            It is a false logic to justify one's malicious acts (Syria's) by mentioning another country's (KSA) malicious acts. Also it is a false logic to say Putin is "saving Christians and Syria" because Putin is thinking about Russia's interests, its military base and its influence in the Middle East. 

            Finally, I wish some Armenians do not take the same attitude as Arabs by blaming others, in this case, the US or the west for every calamity brought upon the Middle East.

            This is intellectual laziness and psychological diversion to project one's problems unto others. Self criticism and calm analysis should be used and only then such Armenians will realize that different value-systems create friction as well as military/political and financial interests. The Middle East, just like Europe 70 years ago, the US 150 years ago, South East Asia 40 years ago will have its transition period from tribal/autocratic value systems into more complex/organized/orderly systems.

      2. East and West

         One has to be obtuse or willfully blind or mendacious not to admit that international politics has remote acquaintance with truth or justice or human values or democracy, etc. The fact is every state pushes for its advantage.

         Willy-nilly Armenia finds itself in the eastern camp. Armenia can't criticize Assad for obvious reasons. And Armenian armchair pundits in the Diaspora should be circumspect when they toss grand and lofty ideas about justice, democracy, dictators. Our enemies wouldn't mind if Armenia disappeared. Europe? We are a nuisance to most of them. They have betrayed us repeatedly and yet we rush to their hem.

         Those who criticize Assad's dictatorship are not honest when they forget to mention that almost all the Arab countries are dictatorships, including S. Arabia and Qatar which have been funding the ISIS butchers among other terrorists. Armenian "universalists, humanists and do-gooders" have two more reasons to keep their council: Assad didn't oppress the Armenians and the number-one enemy of Assad is that veteran Armenophile Erdogan.

         The civil war in Syria is not about democracy. Until Assad's father took over, it seemed Syria changed government (coups) every few months. There were so many instant generals in Syria that somebody quipped that there are more stars in Damascus than in the sky.

         Any government which succeeds Assad will butcher the Alawis and make life miserable for non-Sunnis. That's the nature of the conflict and the culture. The new people will be as brutal as Assad, if one pays attention to the scores of examples from the Arab world.

         The west doesn't care a fig whether Syria is governed by a democratically elected government. All it wants–like Russia–is a prone or at least a friendly government. Did the west destroy the Saddam regime and most of Iraq (in the process creating ISIS) because it wanted to see democracy in Iraq? Likewise in Afghanistan and many other countries one can name. Rumsfeld went to Baghdad, shook Saddam's hand, gave him weapons when Saddam was a certified dictator.

         This is a global duel. Boy Scouts are not allowed. You support either this side or that. Don't assume you have the solution to the conflict(s). The non-allied, the fence-sitters and their bromides are mere noise.

         So please no childish and redundant talk about nasty dictator this or that.

         P.S. Charity begins at home. Look after your people. It's their collective interest which should be paramount in your mind.

4. Facts or Opinions-2

   Summing up Hamo’s rebuttals, I say that this “journalist” is opinionated at best.

   1. Journalist’s Credentials

      This journalist [Hamo Moskofian] has put his credentials and his background up on public display for all to see, including the painful fact that he was held as a political prisoner in Syria.

      I don't know the man personally, but one reason he might be "opinionated" is because he has seen and experienced the things he is opinionated about.

      Now: what are your credentials? Would you kindly share with the readers of Kegahrt.com your experiences which would give you the moral right to insult Mr. Moskofian?

      Thank you.

5. Putin comes to the rescue

   Thank you Avery and everybody for your comments and debate on the pages of democratic keghart.com

   We the grandsons and granddaughters of GENOCIDE and MASS DEPORTATION during the 100th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide are witnessing another Genocide against the Christians of the East, of brother Yezidis, zazas, kurds, palestinians — the main supporters of the contemporary Armenian national-liberation movement born in Beirut in 1975.

   Brothers Abou Ammar, Abou Jihad, George Habash, Hawari, Talat Yacoub, Nayef Hawatmeh defended the Armenians. Whereas Turkey was supported and financed by Germany, the treacherous double-faced France and the Big Brother the US, siding always with criminals, despots, butchers, being more Turkish than Turks and more Zionist than Begin, Natanyahou and et al.

   If there were a true United Nations and Universal judgment, some leaders of the above mentioned countries and Blair of "Great Britain" would be brought to justice and thrown to jail for horrific crimes against humanity!

   Surprisingly, there are some Armenians who still believe in the vague promises of such powers forgetting that if Russia withdrew from the borders of Armenia, there would surely be the SECOND & FINAL GENOCIDE and nobody would interfere.

   Hamo

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