Հայաստանի Իսրայելամոլության Ախտը

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1. Political alzheimer

   Hamo’s analysis of the current Middle Eastern political situation  and the ensuing  dramatic events, deserves a  thorough revision of  azkayin interests and the survival of Armenians in their second but prime fatherland,  by Armenian politicians and political commentators in the RA and beyond borders.(Spurk)?  

   Read Dr. Kojayan in Nor Or? 

   The Gaza  blockade from a humanitarian side is a catastrophe to the Palestinians living on that territory.

   Why don’t you raise your strong voice to the blockade of the RA since 1993 by the TR? You might have. What results?  Did any group come, similar to flotilla, into assistance to people living in the RA? Perhaps. Is it enough? Was it enough?

2. Not true

   Dear Mr. Hamo,

   While I enjoy reading your analysis but this time allow me to disagree with your points.

   The Armenian authorities have established good relations with both Israel and the Arab world and we – as an Armenian Nation- have no interest to side with any party in their conflict.

   In this domain, the Authorities developed the relations with the Arab world whose countries – and I remind you – condemned and still condemn the "occupation" of Artsakh.

   In parallel, good relations were developed with the State of Israel which has tevery right to exist.

   A balance is kept and must be kept and it will be suicide for us to side with one regime against another.

   As for the Armenian remnants in the Middle East which are not allowed to be part of their local governments nor have a say in their countries’ politics or economics (they are labelled "loyal" as long as they are loyal to the local regime) have to decide about their future. 

   Just check what’s happening to the Iraqi Armenians.

   A video clip was banned in Lebanon as it "might hurt the relations with Turkey",,,,, and so on…..

   The Arab countries have realigned with turkey. Turkey is coming back with a new "packaging" of the Ottoman Empire. These countries have no friendly relations – their relations are based on mutual interest and now they have high interest in allying with Turkey.

   As for the Middle Eastern Armenian remnants, well they have to decide their fate….for years they demanded and struggled for an Independent Armenia…..where are they in this independent Nation?

   George 

   1. Dear George
      Dear George,

      Allow me to assume that you did not work for 16 years as a diplomatic journalist in Armenia and were not a member of official ministerial, presidential delegations. I was. I have only seen and sensed immense hospitality, friendship, cordiality and every kind of help by the Arab countries and ruling circles towards Armenia.

      Moreover, the Palestinians were the main ally in our new national liberation movement and undeclared war against Turkey in the 70s of the 20th century thanks to Yaser Arafat ("We fight in order the world does not forget us as they forgot the Armenians"), George Habash, Nayef Hawatme, Emin El-Hindi, Hawari, Talat Yacoub, Abou Abbas and others. With the massive help of such legendary leaders "civilized" Europe "remembered" the Armenians and their cause!

      In 1997 Nebih Berri, the speaker of the Lebanese Parlaiment, during his visit to Armenia declared that Lebanon would acknowledge NKR Independence if the Armenian inhabitants accepted it by plebiscite. Todate, even at the time of "Lion-Hunter" Robert Kocharyan, Armenia itself has not recognized or united with the Republic of Nagorno Karabagh!

      1. Armenians in Arab Countries
         Dear Mr. Moskofian,

         I respect your years of experience and I admit my experience is limited in that sense. However, I believe that the relationship between countries is built on mutual interests not friendships. In this new Order, countries are driven through their highest national interests and not according to friendships or justice or human rights..

         If one day Arafat felt close to the Armenians, today there is a very large number of Palestinians who are unhappy with us when we condemn Ottoman Turkey.

         I didn’t live the 70s but I have read and researched about it. The Palestinians supported our struggle back then because some Armenian militants were fighting with them in South Lebanon and others were conducting attacks against non-turkish targets which had nothing to do with our cause…. 

         The same Nabih Berri that you mentioned accepted a ban on a videoclip (along with the Lebanese authorities) just because it hurt the "feelings" of sister Turkey. Jumblat, a prominent Lebanese leader – another "Arab friend" –  told the press a couple of weeks back that he has Ottoman blood in his roots….just because he has businesses in Istanbul and a large company in Baku. The Party of God which is the biggest ally to the largest Armenian Political party in Lebanon (Tashnag) organized a solidarity sit in front of the Turkish embassy and sent "Thank you" letters to Erdogan and the Turkish leadership…..

          

         All our lives, they told us about the Arab friendship. The Arabs respected us because we were hardworking people and we contributed to their economy, but they never accepted sharing power with us (except in Lebanon which is on its way to become an "Arab" style country).

         For the past weeks, the same Arab "friends" were raising Turkish flags in their capitals – just because of a trivial ship incident which was orchestrated on purpose and the Israelis fell for it….I highly doubt those same "friends" will ever accept anti-Turkey movements in their neighborhoods and backyards…..the days will come and we will see more than banning a video-clip in Lebanon or cancelling a youth conference in Jordan…

         The Arabs (including many Palestinian leaders that you mentioned) have used and abused the Palestinian cause for their local politics and their swiss bank accounts.

          

         The same Arab friends that you mention (including Lebanon) have condemned the "occupation" of NKR under the auspices of the OIC (Organization of Islamic Countries). Our "Arab friend" King of Jordan is one of the biggest advocates of Azerbaijan in OIC and UN. 

         So we have no interest in siding with anybody in this conflict and I still believe that the neutral policy which is followed by the current Authorities is the right one. Armenia has high interests in having good relationships with all and we should keep that through neutrality. 

         After our rightful independence, a new dimension has been added to the Armenian Identity – A free and Sovereign Nation. The Middle Eastern Armenians have to decide if they will link their fate with the Arab world OR with Armenia -a country which esteemed people like you and many other respectful teachers in Lebanon taught us that it’s our Hayrenik. …..

         1. Armenia-Israel
            Dear George,

            Unfortunately, your analysis expresses more feelings and hearsay, not diplomacy and politics based on the vast experience of mutual co-operation with the Arab world and the Middle East, including Iran.

            Your allegation that Palestinian leaders are/were "corrupt" is inflated and are spread mostly by the enemies of the Palestinians to discredit them. Yasser Arafat was killed, because the Israeli and Western intelligence wanted the demise of the last Palestinian leader. Every single religious sect in Palestine respected him. Concerning Naef Hawatmeh and George Habash, they were Christian and genuine revolutionaries. Today Abou Mazen and his corrupt team also have excellent relations with the Armenians of the Holy Land.

            Recently the Armenian National Assembly delegation, headed by the speaker Hovig Abrahamian, were in Beirut as personal and official guests of Nabih Berri, the Speaker of the Lebanese Parlaiment. He received the Armenian delegation members as royalties. Mr. Berri was also invited to visit Armenia this summer, just as Prime Minister Rafic Al-Hariri.

            Never think that the Shiites or Iran are happy about the current Turkish presence in the Middle East. The one-sided and extreme pro-Israeli stance of US foreign policy has made Erdogan popular. Today when you land at any US airport, US Customs treats you as a "potential terrorist", although they know that you are Christian or Armenian. It was the West which unwisely was responsible in strengthening Turkey and Moslem extremism due to blind politics of anti-Sovietism (and anti-Soviet Armenia too ) for decades by spending billions of dollars.

            Who should we the Armenian citizens of Lebanon and other Middle Eastern countries put our trust in among today’s RoA Mafioso leadership?  The story is too long and complex.

            Let me remind you that we had Armenian ambassadors here who were only thinking to fill their pockets and the pockets of their godfathers in Yerevan.

      2. Mercanery Diary

         Hamo, I assume you were once at the payroll of the palestinian figures you have listed, add to it infamous Walid Jumblatt’s Progressive "Socialist" Party and so on. That’s why the same national liberation movement you are hinting at unmasked you and hunted you for a durable time in the past.

         Yesterday you diligently served "Shooter" Robert Kocharyan; today you mock him, labelling as "Lion-Hunter" (reference to Robik’s activities in Tanzania’s jungles at the expense of Armenia’s tax-payers, I guess). I strongly look forward that soon you’ll not spare your current boss Serzhik the same fate.

3. Noren meydan ingav ays serzhant [email protected] ir souderov…

   "…ՀՀ առաջին նախագահ Լևոն Տեր Պետրոսեանը 1992 թվին գրկաբաց ընդունվեց Հաֆեզ էլ-Ասադի կողմից՝ Դամասկոսում և իր ծննդավայր Հալեբում… և իսրայելյան դրոշը պարզեց Երևանի «Ազատության հրապարակ»ում՝ 2008 թվականում…։"

   It’s a mean lie by an incredible person. It was a TV doctored  video-clip done by another incredible porte-parole of the Yerevan regime, the H1 "public" TV and you well know it.

   1. Hayasdani Israelamolutyan Akhdeuh

      Dear "Free,  Democratic" Aram,

      There were a thousand tourists from Lebanon and other countries, then the Israeli flag appeared on Freedom Square, and "dear" Levon Ter Petrosyan danced "Hava Nagila".

      Why don't you want to see reality?

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